Richard Jefferson joins Stefani for a Messy Talk! The 18 year NBA league veteran, NBA Champion, podcast host for Road Trippin’, color commentator, NCAA title runner up, on air host, Olympic bronze medalist shows up and tells us how he does what he does. He uses grown people language and keeps it real on where it started, how it’s going and what keeps him driving forward. With Richard, you always know it’s gonna be funny, can’t wait for you to hear how annoying he really is! Thanks for coming on Messy Talks you big time celeb!

We know it takes two to tango, but how much do we know about the delicate dance of interdependence? Pam speaks about the necessary and constant balancing act between dependence and independence that we all navigate throughout our lives.

Stefani is joined by Susie Walton again for her first Messy Talk season 2 appearance! What is it about the Holidays, that make struggles, disagreements and communication problems within a family dynamic so much more intense?! Have you ever found yourself dreading spreading the holiday cheer every year. You are in Luck! Sus gives us some tips, tools and tricks for how you can manage yourself, even if your family is not doing the same.

Stefani sits down with her best friend Bre Walton, to talk about the evolution of their friendship. We talk about the power of communication and having hard conversations with your chosen family of friends. Distance, marriage, babies, different stages of life, things we only tell each other are only a few of the gems you are sure to hear. She's the golden to my girl, and I'm happy for you to hear how we do life together!

Candles and baths can be gratifying forms of self care, but what if we thought about it more holistically? Pam provides tools and insights about caring for ourselves mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically.

Stefani welcomes you back to season 2 with an episode about what the hell it means when you ask someone what they do? What it means to embrace yourself at all levels of your success, and to find comfort in the unknown. We missed you! We cannot wait to continue to ask the hard questions, do the work and get MESSY!

Are you in tune with your own needs enough to effectively show up for others? In part one of this two-part episode, Pam speaks to Matthew King about the wisdom of taking responsibility for your own behavior and the importance of meeting your own needs mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually.

Have you been taught your whole life that a mess is to be avoided? Or that it is a by-product of something gone wrong? Join Stefani as she explains her shift in perspective and beginning realization that the “messy” feeling is a sign that she was working towards a better understanding of ALL that she was capable of! Mental. Emotional. Spiritual. Self-reliance is literally a MESS. The MESS gets Messy, when YOU do the work…. Let’s get to work.

Are you hoping to create and maintain more balance in your life? Pam encourages listeners to self-reflect on their mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual self-care practices.